Jaded towards psychiatrists, but hopeful

[PeppiPatty]

You certainly do @CherryBomb
Actually, hope you have 5 mins to let you know of a fab book called ..... Oh ..... Geez..... Forgot the name ...... Something ..... but it's by two authors, one is an absolute favourite author Jennifer Rutherford about living in spaces in Australia ..... Ille look the book up.... I'm meaning to rebuy it again and reread .....
Okay I hear your giggling ..... Yes it's true
Buy or go to library and get books before eating
Okay ??? Lol

Yesterday I go to a friends house for our birthday day. We three celebrate our birthday every year and give each other presents ..... They bot have experience in Working with MI, both are art therapists
I lent the book of object relations to one xx

[PeppiPatty]

Hi @CherryBomb
Yes you do reflect. Keep my crumbling intelligence going.
So does @Appleblossom
The book is " the half way house, Poetics of Australian Spaces.' By Jennifer Rutherford.

[MockingJay]

I feel so sad for u I really do. You r to b commended for putting your baby's needs first. However if mum doesn't take care of herself either then your baby may suffer the consequences too. It's like playing Russian roulette with your state of mind. Don't settle for the same old same old. You deserve better than that n so does your baby. Is there a mental health community centre in your area. Look in the phone book or on the Internet for one that's govt funded. If not then get onto a women's help line. Let your eyes n fingers do the walking. Phone calls r cheaper than fuel n it's getting too hot to b running around town. Let me know how u go. Two minds r better than none.

[Appleblossom]

@CannonSalt my last GP was very clear that any referral he made was subject to me feeling good about the person ... and said he was ok to write new referrals for 2nd, 3rd opinions if needed ... but he also wanted to kindly warn me that there were some new practitioners in the area that he thought might not be the best for me ... I dont know how common that is among GPs or if it depends on the relationship built up over time ... the thought of a person whom I could truly feel comfortable  with is a beguiling hope ... ah  ...maybe one day ...

[CannonSalt]

My mother sent me the following article, and I thought it would be relevant here.

"No, you are not an hysterical female, and this is not just anxiety." by Patti Digh

http://www.37days.com/no-you-are-not-an-hysterical-female-and-this-is-not-just-anxiety/

After falling onto her head and having concussion, double vision, blood clots, vertigo, etc. etc. Ms. Digh was told it was 'just anxiety'. It was also 'just anxiety' because she went into the hospital on a weekend rather than wait until Monday. Then later on, she had a heart attack. It gives some good tips for red flags with doctors.

[Appleblossom]

Jaded towards doctors but hopeful.

I have allowed my GP to let his med students interview me ... but this doctor had respect and therefore so did the student .. also I was hanging out in the same red carpeted medical library at the time ... inside information goes a long way ....

I think I am grieving my old doc ... gradually letting go and moving on.

How are you going @CannonSalt

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interesting to reread this after I first posted in 2016. At the time I had not really processed my jadedness. I was still in hopeful mode. Maybe my soul work is to be more realistic and not tolerate so much BS. Anyway still grateful for that GP. I have never met one that came close. 

@PeppiPatty @QuietSoul @MockingJay @rav3n @AuntGlow 

melancholia….

@chibam just really appreciated your honesty since way back in the early forum days.

[chibam]

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@Appleblossom wrote:

@chibam just really appreciated your honesty since way back in the early forum days.

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Thanks, @Appleblossom ! 🙂🤗

Quite a trip down memory lane this thread.

That honesty gets me into trouble more often then not. I frequently wonder if it's just better for me to keep my trap shut.

But it's refreshing to hear that, at least some times, it's appreciated. 🙂

[Appleblossom]

Definitely appreciated by me, though I know what you mean about not rocking the boat too much. @chibam Its just good for the many that don’t speak about that stuff, or it all gets swept under the carpet.

[chibam]

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@Appleblossom wrote:

Definitely appreciated by me, though I know what you mean about not rocking the boat too much. @chibam Its just good for the many that don’t speak about that stuff, or it all gets swept under the carpet.

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It's maddening, @Appleblossom . All the time we hear these soundbytes being put out by various community leaders, saying: "We need to talk about mental health"... Except we're not aloud to talk about it! 😠 Or, at least, there are an awful lot of crucial matters that we aren't aloud to talk about - matters upon which the rest of the subject of public mental health rests upon.

You try to have a conversation about these problems and you either get sensored or kicked out of the conversation.

It's not right; and it's at the very heart of why we're still having the exact same unproductive conversations as we were having 10, 15 years ago. Their unproductive because they are incomplete, due to sensorship!

How do supposedly-wise community leaders not see this? Why do they still insist on sweeping the most pertinant factors under the rug? Can't they see that, despite whatever problems might arise from speaking these truths out loud, the problems that will endure due to them being silenced are much, much worse?

@Jlol  did a thread recently about government action on mental health - I meant to reply to it, but I got sidetracked with other things. But the essence of what I wanted to say was that we have no hope of there ever being any beneficial government action on mental health until we actually get the opportunity to speak openly and frankly about what the problems are, and what solutions we need.

At the moment, we just don't have that level of free speech in the mental health conversation.

[Jlol]

Well said @chibam!

I definitely think, too, that any public conversation (as in in the media, by politicians, etc) we have about mental health are just about 2 things:

1. "Its ok to not be ok/ask for help/etc"
2. "We need more funding/psychologists/mental health care workers!"

Very, very rarely* are the causes of poor mental health talked about: financial distressed, isolation, homelessness, uncertainty.
I very much worry that the current rhetoric we have around mental health is designed to shift blame to the person suffering it. As in "you're sick. See a doctor, talk to a shrink". Not "This demographic has poor mental health, why?".

To use a poor analogy: It's like a chemical plant worker working in a factory with poor ventilation and PPE, getting sick, then being told by the factory owner that they need to talk about it and see a doctor, only to return to the same toxic workplace the next day.
Seeing a doctor (or a shrink) is good. Being in an environment that doesn't make you sick is better.

And I totally get how we're being censored. Look at all the new words that have sprung up, particularly in social media like "Unalive". People are literally unable to say the word "suicide". Even on this very forum the rules around when you can and can't mention the "s" word are so vague a lot of people don't bother talking about it anymore. I'm so sick of it.